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Oct 13, 05:41 PM
Originally posted by buffsldr
Bottom line, Apple does not exist to outperform pc's. They exist to make their share holders money. The original question was who should we blame? I am not sure that there is a problem. As one consumer, I would love to see macs outperform pc's, but before I am willing to accept there is a problem that will affect apple's profitability I would like to see a business case explaining how apple can make more money by fixing these alleged "problems". But, I really dont care. I use apple because i like it. when apple stops meeting my computer needs, i can go somewhere else, or do without.
Oh please!
Apples exists to compete with PCs and one of, if not THE major element of that is having the best/fastest hardware! If Apple didn't want to compete with PCs, then they wouldn't make so much out of the MGz myth and say that "Apple Mac X will outperform Wintel X, even with two thirds of the processor speed!".
Apple needs to do something fast, beause virtually forcing schools across America to take on Macs and whining that Microsoft are big bullies isn't going to help them.
Sorry, i'm being a bit extreme, but i wish Apple would hurry up and do something.
PCs are the competition and releasing an update of a product every six months, while the competition is constantly updating, isn't going to work for them for much longer.
Originally posted by e-coli
I think Steve Jobs is a good showman, but I don't think he's a very good CEO. Apple needs an enterprise strategy. A results-oriented approach to getting business done, and integrating data across multiple platforms and industries. They need to spurn wider acceptence of the Mac platform to create competition. That's the only way Apple is going to succeed as a company.
Agreed! And one of the reasons Apple isn't working fast enough is because you're all so busy kissing their @ss! Start a petition (http://www.petitiononline.com), write an email, send a fax or even write a letter telling Apple to release the latest batch of Hardware and then get on with moving this company forward.
You guys seem to spend so much time talking, but you take no action!
Bottom line, Apple does not exist to outperform pc's. They exist to make their share holders money. The original question was who should we blame? I am not sure that there is a problem. As one consumer, I would love to see macs outperform pc's, but before I am willing to accept there is a problem that will affect apple's profitability I would like to see a business case explaining how apple can make more money by fixing these alleged "problems". But, I really dont care. I use apple because i like it. when apple stops meeting my computer needs, i can go somewhere else, or do without.
Oh please!
Apples exists to compete with PCs and one of, if not THE major element of that is having the best/fastest hardware! If Apple didn't want to compete with PCs, then they wouldn't make so much out of the MGz myth and say that "Apple Mac X will outperform Wintel X, even with two thirds of the processor speed!".
Apple needs to do something fast, beause virtually forcing schools across America to take on Macs and whining that Microsoft are big bullies isn't going to help them.
Sorry, i'm being a bit extreme, but i wish Apple would hurry up and do something.
PCs are the competition and releasing an update of a product every six months, while the competition is constantly updating, isn't going to work for them for much longer.
Originally posted by e-coli
I think Steve Jobs is a good showman, but I don't think he's a very good CEO. Apple needs an enterprise strategy. A results-oriented approach to getting business done, and integrating data across multiple platforms and industries. They need to spurn wider acceptence of the Mac platform to create competition. That's the only way Apple is going to succeed as a company.
Agreed! And one of the reasons Apple isn't working fast enough is because you're all so busy kissing their @ss! Start a petition (http://www.petitiononline.com), write an email, send a fax or even write a letter telling Apple to release the latest batch of Hardware and then get on with moving this company forward.
You guys seem to spend so much time talking, but you take no action!
MrMac'n'Cheese
Mar 21, 08:48 PM
I have the feeling a bunch of knuckleheads are going to stick a post-it with a clever one-liner on their iPad 2's and return them with the hope of a free iPad2.
farmboy
Jan 11, 05:02 PM
Hey everyone, I'd just thought you'd like to know that I'm loaded too. I have 901 shares of Apple....and I would have lost close to $18000 last week when the stock dropped, but fortunately it's only 5% of my portfolio. That and some prescient shorting mitigated my downside risk. So yeah, how about that new MacPro?
until you sell. It's just a value.
until you sell. It's just a value.
bigbossbmb
Aug 3, 06:03 PM
I also doubt we'll be seeing a phone, but anything's possible with Apple.
Nobody was really expecting this (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=500), remember?
Reading some of the posts on that thread are hilarious!! "lame" "it won't sell" blah blah...
But yeah, no big deal about this banner as it does not show anything
Nobody was really expecting this (http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=500), remember?
Reading some of the posts on that thread are hilarious!! "lame" "it won't sell" blah blah...
But yeah, no big deal about this banner as it does not show anything
iJawn108
Sep 12, 08:36 PM
Um free is for a limited time only and you have to buy a $1000+ computer. Anyone who buys a $1000+ Mac should get a break on an iPod too. Also, I'm not complaining about the free iPod deal, I'm complaining that students used to get about a $30 break on all iPods year round. There is a reason why there is a whole education section on the Apple Online Store. Without students support, the iPod wouldn't be anywhere near the cultural icon that it is. Guess what, most students don't have a set income but their patronage is very important to Apple and iPods in general. And I'm 25, Mommy and Daddy haven't payed for me for a long time. So now who is trolling. (Hint: the guy who puts offensive posts up with big upper cased red letters)
Hye guy if you are a registered student and go to anywell known school you get a discount on ipods year round as well as any other apple product.
Hye guy if you are a registered student and go to anywell known school you get a discount on ipods year round as well as any other apple product.
Queso
Sep 13, 01:43 PM
I just bought one of the silver ones and I really like it. It feels just like a mini to touch and the packaging reminds me of the sort of boxes you got Times watches in. It's syncing up all my music as I type :)
metalblaze
Mar 11, 04:56 PM
Apologies...if it has already been discussed...I am at an airport, and dont have the time to scroll through all the pages before my flight departure:
http://www.9to5mac.com/new-macbook-pros-5464563
http://www.macrumors.com/2010/03/11/macbook-pro-update-due-for-launch-as-soon-as-tomorrow/
http://www.9to5mac.com/new-macbook-pros-5464563
http://www.macrumors.com/2010/03/11/macbook-pro-update-due-for-launch-as-soon-as-tomorrow/
takao
Mar 30, 06:06 AM
The specific application of force by US warplanes under UN auspices, with request by the rebels and the Arab League should give the operation any legal cover it should need in both International and US law. Moreover, since NATO is also involved, our treaty obligations require us to act as well.
actually NATO doesn't come into play ... or do you see any german troops ? ;)
the fact that the very same arguments come up regarding germans none-vote in the security council like they did during the start of the iraq 'coalition of the willing' discussion makes it rather obvious that their are a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes yet again
"the germans are risking their EU leadership" "the germans are risking cross atlantic relationships"
because obviously according to the press playing the poodle of the United states or helping Sarkozy to win elections is desirable :rolleyes:
Just think about it: Sarkozy got funding for his last campaign illegally from libya. Can there be a more convinient way of getting away from that dirty laundry than bombing them into oblivion ? While at home showing how much of a strong leader he is for increasing popularity ?
actually NATO doesn't come into play ... or do you see any german troops ? ;)
the fact that the very same arguments come up regarding germans none-vote in the security council like they did during the start of the iraq 'coalition of the willing' discussion makes it rather obvious that their are a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes yet again
"the germans are risking their EU leadership" "the germans are risking cross atlantic relationships"
because obviously according to the press playing the poodle of the United states or helping Sarkozy to win elections is desirable :rolleyes:
Just think about it: Sarkozy got funding for his last campaign illegally from libya. Can there be a more convinient way of getting away from that dirty laundry than bombing them into oblivion ? While at home showing how much of a strong leader he is for increasing popularity ?
3N16MA
Nov 23, 09:11 PM
All this proves is that Beatles fans like to waste their money repurchasing music they already own just because it's available in a new format. I bet that most of the albums and individual songs sold were purchased by people who already own that album/song.
Or perhaps a new generation of fans bought the music.
Or perhaps a new generation of fans bought the music.
kajman
Mar 12, 05:03 AM
AppleStore is offline :D
hansiedejong
Oct 20, 11:28 AM
http://dl.dropbox.com/0/view/jv0ysrslinmtt2l/Screenshots/iPhone/Photo%20okt.%2020%2C%206%2013%2017%20PM.jpg
Ultimate usage of my Apple stuff: iPad as excellent calculator during making my homework for math, in a perfect viewing angle thanks the Apple iPad case (I own since today, excellent case). MBP used as music player for the relaxing during making homework thanks to iTunes. iPhone used as camera. Love my Apple stuff!
Ultimate usage of my Apple stuff: iPad as excellent calculator during making my homework for math, in a perfect viewing angle thanks the Apple iPad case (I own since today, excellent case). MBP used as music player for the relaxing during making homework thanks to iTunes. iPhone used as camera. Love my Apple stuff!
Burnsey
Apr 26, 12:52 PM
Who knows? Maybe there is a genetic component involved.
So you're saying it is race, but not because of racism, but because of genetics? If it's genetics then how does it explain the successful blacks like your president among countless others?
So you're saying it is race, but not because of racism, but because of genetics? If it's genetics then how does it explain the successful blacks like your president among countless others?
alent1234
Apr 14, 01:56 PM
I used to think the same way. 2 kids off to college, money is tight but I gave them each their choice of laptops:
1.) kid#1 chose a Dell because she <gasp> liked Vista :eek:
2.) kid#2 chose the plain old white macbook
3 years later, guess which one is currently crap? Seriously, Kid#1 comes home one day, opens up her Dell and she's got 3 keys missing one of which is the Enter key - has no clue where they went. :D Also, the battery is lasting a full 20 minutes and the DVD drive is kaput. The damn thing creaks and moans more than my arthritic joints.
Now, the lowly white macbook looks like it's been used as a door mat (which I polished up for kid #2 in about 5 minutes) but it works flawlessly.
Really... don't rationalize the cost. Kids are tough on these things and you aren't always there to "learn 'em" how to handle them. A well built mac + Applecare is a pretty secure future for their learning experience.
who cares? dell's are cheap enough that you can buy a 15" model every year and after 3 years still spend less $$$ than a MBP with Apple Care
1.) kid#1 chose a Dell because she <gasp> liked Vista :eek:
2.) kid#2 chose the plain old white macbook
3 years later, guess which one is currently crap? Seriously, Kid#1 comes home one day, opens up her Dell and she's got 3 keys missing one of which is the Enter key - has no clue where they went. :D Also, the battery is lasting a full 20 minutes and the DVD drive is kaput. The damn thing creaks and moans more than my arthritic joints.
Now, the lowly white macbook looks like it's been used as a door mat (which I polished up for kid #2 in about 5 minutes) but it works flawlessly.
Really... don't rationalize the cost. Kids are tough on these things and you aren't always there to "learn 'em" how to handle them. A well built mac + Applecare is a pretty secure future for their learning experience.
who cares? dell's are cheap enough that you can buy a 15" model every year and after 3 years still spend less $$$ than a MBP with Apple Care
Full of Win
Apr 1, 11:55 PM
Apple does not like it when OEM's let things slip. IIRC, ATI lost a contract due to something like this.
Kyzelios
Mar 21, 02:49 PM
That's awesome! :D
Ugg
May 1, 07:25 PM
Corvus, glad to hear you, your wife and the cats are ok. I'm sure it must have been terrifying.
Glad your MBP survived too!
Glad your MBP survived too!
redAPPLE
Oct 16, 12:51 AM
where would we be without him?
i'd be nowhere. i would have to restart and i would be where i started from. :D
i'd be nowhere. i would have to restart and i would be where i started from. :D
apolloa
Apr 5, 07:35 AM
This is the first, and last time Apple will ask for Sony's help.
Yeah, but not the last time it asks for all the hundreds of other suppliers help it does so yearly as Apple actually makes NOTHING itself bar software these days.......
And I'm pretty sure it's not called 'help' but rather buying the best components from suppliers to make your products with.
And on a side note, Sonys Exmoor R which is most likely what Apple will use, pretty much creams the iPhone 4's module, if it wasn't a big enough improvement Apple wouldn't bother with it and use something else.
Yeah, but not the last time it asks for all the hundreds of other suppliers help it does so yearly as Apple actually makes NOTHING itself bar software these days.......
And I'm pretty sure it's not called 'help' but rather buying the best components from suppliers to make your products with.
And on a side note, Sonys Exmoor R which is most likely what Apple will use, pretty much creams the iPhone 4's module, if it wasn't a big enough improvement Apple wouldn't bother with it and use something else.
MacSamurai
Oct 16, 07:21 AM
Steve is a smart guy. I wish our president could answer tough questions as gracefully as Steve does.
Steve for president lol.I wish our president could answer questions period...
Steve for president lol.I wish our president could answer questions period...
kazmac
Apr 11, 07:45 AM
It's bad enough that the suite will be updated every year (.5 edition) and now the subscription too?
Am I understanding correctly: no updates for the mid-term suite for those that plunge for the more expensive bi-annual package? Boo.
I feel bad for all the designers/photographers/filmmakers (part of companys and esp. freelance/new graduates). How the hell will folks be able to afford upgrading every year and/or two years. This doesn't include the time and possible addition outlay to work around the learning curves for all new bells, whistles, bs etc.
I guess I stopped using Adobe's product at the right time. This just makes my wallet and brain cringe massively.
Am I understanding correctly: no updates for the mid-term suite for those that plunge for the more expensive bi-annual package? Boo.
I feel bad for all the designers/photographers/filmmakers (part of companys and esp. freelance/new graduates). How the hell will folks be able to afford upgrading every year and/or two years. This doesn't include the time and possible addition outlay to work around the learning curves for all new bells, whistles, bs etc.
I guess I stopped using Adobe's product at the right time. This just makes my wallet and brain cringe massively.
Brandon Sharitt
Sep 4, 07:26 AM
Awww and I haven't even gotten tired of my first generation nano yet...
But if the metal enclosure is as good as those on the minis then I might just have to upgrade. :p
I still like my first generation Nano, but my girlfriends dog got a hold of it and broke the screen. Luckily I can see just enough of the bottom of the screen to put in on shuffle songs, so it's like having and extra wide black shuffle. I'm waiting update before I buy a new one. Besides, my trusty mini still works too.
But if the metal enclosure is as good as those on the minis then I might just have to upgrade. :p
I still like my first generation Nano, but my girlfriends dog got a hold of it and broke the screen. Luckily I can see just enough of the bottom of the screen to put in on shuffle songs, so it's like having and extra wide black shuffle. I'm waiting update before I buy a new one. Besides, my trusty mini still works too.
john-wil
Mar 31, 01:08 PM
Android tablets are proving to be better then Apple's iPad
SortKaffe
Apr 12, 12:02 PM
How about, "we want to invest in the US!"
Sheeeez!
There should be a law that states anytime a US company chooses to manufacture something outside the US, the company must post a clearly-articulated-less-than-25-page document stating AND COMPARING why the US is unable to manufacture said product.
Never gonna happen. Pretty much all politicians in the United States are bought and owned by corporate interest groups. And they're not out to help the average guy live a decent life. They're not gonna stop until they've destroyed the labour unions completely so they can bring our wages down even more. The minimum wage is already a joke but don't worry man, the day we're making just as much as a bangladeshi guy they'll be happy. That way they don't have to move factories to the far east, They can just build them right here in the massive suburban poverty stricken areas of the united states. Then We'll be making iPhones at sh.it wages for the rich easterners! Yeehow! America Number 1?!.......... No?
It's a sad world. If every country could just agree on laws that would secure a decent wage for everyone this sh.it wouldn't be going on.
Sheeeez!
There should be a law that states anytime a US company chooses to manufacture something outside the US, the company must post a clearly-articulated-less-than-25-page document stating AND COMPARING why the US is unable to manufacture said product.
Never gonna happen. Pretty much all politicians in the United States are bought and owned by corporate interest groups. And they're not out to help the average guy live a decent life. They're not gonna stop until they've destroyed the labour unions completely so they can bring our wages down even more. The minimum wage is already a joke but don't worry man, the day we're making just as much as a bangladeshi guy they'll be happy. That way they don't have to move factories to the far east, They can just build them right here in the massive suburban poverty stricken areas of the united states. Then We'll be making iPhones at sh.it wages for the rich easterners! Yeehow! America Number 1?!.......... No?
It's a sad world. If every country could just agree on laws that would secure a decent wage for everyone this sh.it wouldn't be going on.
04mach1
Mar 30, 02:13 PM
I am just going to wait, I know if I get an iphone 4 now then in 4-6 months the iphone 5 comes out I will be kicking myself. Its just like I couldnt wait a few months for the 3gs when I got the iphone 3g. I was kicking myself.
I think I am going to wait to. Kicking myself also....
I think I am going to wait to. Kicking myself also....
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